Showing posts with label charlottsville 2017. Show all posts
Showing posts with label charlottsville 2017. Show all posts

Saturday, April 27, 2019

Confederate "Heritage" Month 2019, April 27: Trump still thinks Robert E. Lee and his neo-Nazi fans are "very fine people"

Apparently Trump wants to be the star of Confederate "Heritage" Month, too: Katie Galioto, Trump says he answered Charlottesville questions 'perfectly' Politico 04/26/2019. He defended his notorious praise for neo-Nazis ("very fine people") at the murderous 2017 Charlottesville rally where demonstrators nominally supporting the retention of a Robert E. Lee statue chanted "Jews will not replace us!"
“If you look at what I said you will see that that question was answered perfectly,” Trump told reporters on the White House lawn ahead of a trip to Indianapolis to speak at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting. “I was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to Robert E. Lee, a great general.”

The president has received repeated criticism from those arguing he offered moral equivalence between the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who incited the rally and those who protested against them. In the days following the deadly protests, Trump did not denounce the marchers, instead condemning violence on both sides and calling for Americans to “come together.”
This is an illustration of how neo-Confederate/Lost Cause pseudohistory and ideology is very much a part of the worldview projected by today's Trumpified, white nationalist Republican Party.

Here is Trump, who probably couldn't tell you in what century Lee lived, Trump Defends His 2017 Charlottesville Response, Praises Robert E. Lee TicToc by Bloomberg 04/26/2019. The Charlottesville comment comes just after 2:30.

He comically claims just after 1:10, "I'm a student of history." He also claims "I'm a young, vibrant man."


The reporter that asked the Charlottesville question didn't directly mention Joe Biden's reference to Trump's comment about Charlottesville in his video Thursday formally announcing his Presidential campaign. But Biden - who has some shaky history on civil rights himself - did raise it in that video. And good for him for doing so. This is an MSNBC report with commentary on Trump's doubling-down on neo-Nazis being "very fine people", President Donald Trump Makes His Own Argument On Charlottesville Worse Deadline 04/26/2019:


It's worth noting here that in his last Presidential run, Biden couldn't resist a touch of neo-Confederate type talk himself (Xuan Thai and Ted Barrett, Biden's description of Obama draws scrutiny CNN 02/09/2007):
In a June 2006 appearance in New Hampshire, the senator [Biden] commented on the growth of the Indian-American population in Delaware by saying, "You cannot go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. Oh, I'm not joking."

Two months later, responding to a question in an August interview on Fox News Sunday, Biden was asked how a "Northeast liberal" could compete against more conservative southern candidates.

"Better than everybody else. You don't know my state. My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state is the eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything from a northeast liberal state," Biden said.

He repeated the comment during a visit to South Carolina in December 2006 at an event before the Columbia Rotary Club, according to a story published in The State newspaper. The State reported that Biden referred to Delaware as a "slave state that fought beside the North. That's only because we couldn't figure out how to get to the South. There were a couple of states in the way." [my emphasis]
When pundits talk about Biden being gaffe-prone, this is what they mean. His glad-handing, respond-to-the-crowd-in-front-of-you style is appealing and makes him come across as likable.

But when he goes with the flow in that way, he sometimes lets out some blunders. I heard Biden speak live at the Netroots Nation conference in Detroit in 2014, and that likability aspect was very evident. VP Joe Biden speaks about Marriage Equality at Netroots Nation:


But just after 13:40, he begins an impassioned portion denouncing physical abuse of women, using the somewhat old-fashioned euphemism of a man raising his hand against a woman, i.e., calling it a "cardinal sin" and declaring. "No man has a right to raise his hand to a woman for whatever reason." He continued in a peroration, "No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman under any circumstances" and completed the sentence "except self-defense. Period."

It didn't come off though he was making excuses for domestic violence. On the contrary. But it also sounded really awkward and did distract from his attempt to unequivocally condemn it.

And I think his reliance on the metaphor (or I guess it's technically a synecdoche) of a man "raising his hand against a woman" was part of the problem. It probably occurred to him or his speechwriter that he needed to make the statement a bit more generic, because domestic violence happens in same-sex couples and involves not just spouses but children, as well. And, yes, men are sometimes also victims of violence initiated by a female spouse or partner, though the inverse is obviously far more often the case. If he had framed the speech in terms of "domestic violence" and violence against "partners," he could have avoided the awkward moment. And in a speech like that, he would have buried his point if he tried to put in all the variations I mention in this paragraph.

But that's Biden. I don't know if his Delaware-was-a-slave-state gaffe in 2006 was a similar case of his trying to duck the neo-Confederate issue by being humorous, or if it was a line he's been using for years to signal that he agreed with segregationists on some things like court-ordered busing for desegregating schools. Either way, it's a reminder of how broadly Lost Cause talking points have affected the US political vocabulary.

Sunday, April 21, 2019

Confederate "Heritage" Month 2019, April 21: Trump as Jefferson Davis

Lucian Truscotto IV in Slow motion civil war Salon 11/17/2019 draws on Confederate symbolism and uses it as negative in today's context, not as favorable and not in the sense of glorifying the Confederacy.

He recalls Trump's response to the infamous demonstrations of "white supremacists, neo-nazis, neo-confederates, white nationalists, and neo-fascists" in Charlottesville August 2017 in which Heather Heyer was murdered by a radical white extremist:
Later the day she died, President Trump went before the cameras at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and said, "We all must be united and condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Let's come together as one!" Responding to a question, he went on to say, "we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides, on many sides." He was roundly criticized that day and the next for blaming the violence that caused multiple injuries and the death of Heather Heyer on “many sides.”

Responding to the criticism three days later, Trump addressed the media at Trump Tower and repeated his claim that there was “blame on both sides.” Responding to another question, Trump asserted, "Not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch.” He went on to criticize the movement to take down Confederate statues as “an attempt to change history,” and criticized “the very, very violent alt-left.” He went on to defend the protest by the alt-right in Charlottesville by saying “there were very fine people on both sides.”
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At a rally in Phoenix, Arizona a week later, Trump defended his statements at the Trump Tower press conference and again criticized the movement to take down Confederate statues. “They're trying to take away our culture, they're trying to take away our history,” Trump said. “And our weak leaders, they do it overnight.” ...

It was crystal clear who “our” refers to, crystal clear why Trump felt compelled to note that “not all” of the demonstrators in Charlottesville were “neo-Nazis” and “white supremacists.” He stood with those defending the celebration of the Confederacy with statues of Confederate generals like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. ”Our” people are white people. [my emphasis]
More particularly, white people who honor the images and symbols and the white supremacist cause of the Confederacy.

Truscotto goes on to describe some the acts of white supremacist violence in the US in the Age of Trump. and otes that Trump "he is their Jefferson Davis."

I have reservations about using "civil war" to describe our current level of far right terrorism, as Truscotto does. But he's right to understand it as very much in the spirit of the Confederate revolt of the 19th century.